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Old July 7th, 2009, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Grandad View Post
Hello everyone -

I don't think any of the proofs so far are really complete, although simplependulum has all but done it - without adequately testing the initial hypotheses. (Where, for instance, is the requirement that p \ge 3?)

I'm afraid ProveIt's last line doesn't work. Just because \frac{A}{p} is not an integer and \frac{B}{p} is not an integer doesn't necessarily mean that \frac{A-B}{p} is not an integer.

May I suggest the following.

Using the notation P(k) = \alpha^k +\beta^k, and the proofs so far offered, we know that

P(k+1) = (p+1)P(k) - P(k-1)

= pP(k) + P(k) - P(k-1)

\Rightarrow P(k+1) \equiv P(k)-P(k-1) \mod p. Call this equation (1)


If we now replace k by (k-1) in this equation we get:

P(k) \equiv P(k-1) - P(k-2) \mod p

\Rightarrow P(k+1) \equiv P(k-1) - P(k-2) - P(k-1) \mod p

\Rightarrow P(k+1) \equiv -P(k-2) \mod p

Therefore if P(k-2) is not a multiple of p, then P(k+1) isn't either.


So, provided P(1), P(2) and P(3) are not multiples of p, we have sufficient to show that P(k) is not a multiple of p for all integers k \ge 1.


P(1) = \alpha + \beta = p+1 \Rightarrow P(1) is not a multiple of p

P(2) = (\alpha+\beta)^2 - 2\alpha\beta = (p+1)^2 - 2 = p^2 +p+(p-1)

\Rightarrow P(2) \equiv (p-1) \mod p

\Rightarrow P(2) \ne 0 \mod p, for p \ge 2

P(3) \equiv P(2) - P(1) \mod p (using equation (1) with k = 2)

\Rightarrow P(3) \equiv (p-1) - 1 \mod p

\Rightarrow P(3) \equiv (p-2) \mod p

\Rightarrow P(3) \ne 0 \mod p, for p\ge 3


And that completes the proof, I think.

Grandad
Thanks Grandad for the proof but I do not know anything about modulus and its operations.Is there any other alternate solution for this?
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