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| | Uniform Let X have the uniform distribution (0,2) and let the conditional distribution of Y given X=x be uniform on (0,x^2).
a) Find the condition expectation and variance of Y given X=x. USe these to find the marginal expectation and variance of Y...
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Originally Posted by brd_7 Let X have the uniform distribution (0,2) and let the conditional distribution of Y given X=x be uniform on (0,x^2).
a) Find the condition expectation and variance of Y given X=x. USe these to find the marginal expectation and variance of Y...
Many thanks | The pdf of X is  for  and zero elsewhere.
The conditional distribution of Y given X = x is  for  and zero elsewhere.
Now apply the standard definitions and do the necessary calculations:  .  . ![Var(Y | X = x) = E(Y^2 | X = x) - [E(Y | X = x)]^2 Var(Y | X = x) = E(Y^2 | X = x) - [E(Y | X = x)]^2](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/286eda609f38e3a178a310285d54a050-1.gif) . ![E(Y) = E[E(Y | X = x)] = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} E(Y | X = x) \, f_X(x) \, dx = \int_0^2 E(Y | X = x) \, \frac{1}{2} \, dx E(Y) = E[E(Y | X = x)] = \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} E(Y | X = x) \, f_X(x) \, dx = \int_0^2 E(Y | X = x) \, \frac{1}{2} \, dx](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/7502cf18604b2cfef93bee3cee1b0d78-1.gif) .
To get Var(Y), read this: Law of total variance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and do the necessary computation.
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| | Ive got it all upto the Variance of Y.. Ive got an example thats with numbers, but i cant seem to figure out what to do, and its especially confusing because of it being a uniform distribution.. Any ideas?
And i just need to do the Var(Y) now..
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Originally Posted by brd_7 Ive got it all upto the Variance of Y.. Ive got an example thats with numbers, but i cant seem to figure out what to do, and its especially confusing because of it being a uniform distribution.. Any ideas?
And i just need to do the Var(Y) now.. | To save the wheel getting re-invented, if you give all your answers (with working would be ideal) it will be easier to show how to get the variance.
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| | Sorry, i did write down the answers, but realised they were wrong, made a careless mistake. Anyway.. I got the following..
x^2/2
x^4/3
x^4/12
1/3
With just Var(Y) to work out..
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Originally Posted by brd_7 Sorry, i did write down the answers, but realised they were wrong, made a careless mistake. Anyway.. I got the following..
x^2/2
x^4/3
x^4/12
1/3
With just Var(Y) to work out..
Many Thanks | So you need to calculate ![E[Var(Y | X)] = E\left[\frac{X^4}{12}\right] E[Var(Y | X)] = E\left[\frac{X^4}{12}\right]](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/bdf00dfef1a8e2083da78ebc8ee0ae2c-1.gif) and ![Var[E(Y | X)] = Var\left[ \frac{X^2}{2}\right] Var[E(Y | X)] = Var\left[ \frac{X^2}{2}\right]](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/84c4e620e8d68b8821d63bab79f540b7-1.gif) . ![E\left[\frac{X^4}{12}\right] = \int_0^2 \left( \frac{x^4}{12}\right) \left(\frac{1}{2} \right) \, dx E\left[\frac{X^4}{12}\right] = \int_0^2 \left( \frac{x^4}{12}\right) \left(\frac{1}{2} \right) \, dx](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/d9b540ae3b3e1b2f203eedbbd245bd8c-1.gif) . ![Var\left[ \frac{X^2}{2}\right] Var\left[ \frac{X^2}{2}\right]](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/d3c6d22f3722cfce1b306c1d224ce5bc-1.gif) :
You need the pdf of  . This can be got by calculating G(u), the cdf of U. Then  , where g(u) is the pdf of U.
Then ![Var \left[ \frac{X^2}{2}\right] = Var (U) = E(U^2) - [E(U)]^2 Var \left[ \frac{X^2}{2}\right] = Var (U) = E(U^2) - [E(U)]^2](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/8c84300466c28a170c7819cacec5cca0-1.gif) .  since  for  .
Therefore  for  and zero elsewhere.
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