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| | Fourier Coefficients Let (e_k) be an orthonormal sequence in a Hilbert space H, and let
M=span{e_k}. Show that for any x \in H we have x \in \overline{M}
\iff x can be represented by \sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \alpha_k e_k, with
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May 31st, 2009, 01:18 PM
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| | It should be clear that it suffices to prove the following:
Let  an orthonormal set in a Hilbert space  , then  is a Hilbert base (  )  we have
Since  is a Hilbert base, we have  and so, we divide this in two cases:
1)  : We have then  where  (where  is the basefield  or  ) then  . Thus  , and as such for every  we have  and so 
2)  : We choose a  such that  . Then  . Now we take  and using the triangle inequality two times and the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality afterwards we obtain: 
Thus we have shown that
Since  , we are finished. 
Since for all  we have  then  , we have that  and so,  , and so  .
Man, that was hard to type, anyway hope it helps.
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May 31st, 2009, 01:25 PM
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| | Just a quick question what is  ? is it same as span ? i.e. all possible linear combinations of e_n ?
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Originally Posted by frater_cp Just a quick question what is \overline{lin(B)} ? is it same as span ? i.e. all possible linear combinations of e_n ? | No, it means the topological closure (obviously with the topology induced from the norm) of the linear span of B.
By the way check it out, I fixed the first post and now everything is legible...Yay. | 
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| | Youre the best Jose ! My brain is a bit tired has been a long day, but I'm gonna work through it slowly in the morning when I'm fresh. Thanks so much for the assistance :-) | 
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| | can you just help me with something small... I am not exactly sure what the
operator  means.
Never seen it before is it an inner product or something else?
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| | Yes, it's the inner product, I was going to use the normal brackets, but my instructions got all mixed up, and decided to change the brackets for this notation. Hope it doesn't confuse you much. | | The following users thank Jose27 for this useful post: | |  | 
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| | Thank you for clarifying that for me Jose!
No I'll manage.
My sincerest gratitude for the solution you provided typed out is such elegance.
I've got plenty to learn about inner product spaces and hilbert spaces and your feedback is helping a great deal! | 
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Originally Posted by Jose27 It should be clear that it suffices to prove the following:
Let  an orthonormal set in a Hilbert space  , then  is a Hilbert base (  )  we have
Since  is a Hilbert base, we have  and so, we divide this in two cases:
1)  : We have then  where  (where  is the basefield  or  ) then  . Thus  , and as such for every  we have  and so 
2)  : We choose a  such that  . Then  . Now we take  and using the triangle inequality two times and the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality afterwards we obtain: 
Thus we have shown that
Since  , we are finished. 
Since for all  we have  then  , we have that  and so,  , and so  .
Man, that was hard to type, anyway hope it helps. | I was checking this the other day, and realized that there's a mistake in  basically, I'm fixing  and trying to show that for sufficiently large  the series approaches what it has to, and if you notice I concluded with  which is clearly false, since I'm letting  go to infinity, leaving  fixed, not the other way around.
Anyway, I'll try it again later, but in the meantime sorry for the wrong proof. Although the other implication IS right (it IS kind of trivial though  ). | 
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| | Hi Jose. Thanks for alerting me to the fact that there is something wrong with the proof.
Do you think you can rectify it? | 
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Originally Posted by Jose27 I was checking this the other day, and realized that there's a mistake in  basically, I'm fixing  and trying to show that for sufficiently large  the series approaches what it has to, and if you notice I concluded with  which is clearly false, since I'm letting  go to infinity, leaving  fixed, not the other way around.
Anyway, I'll try it again later, but in the meantime sorry for the wrong proof. Although the other implication IS right (it IS kind of trivial though  ). |
I am also seeking a proof for this problem. | 
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| | Okay, I think I got it now.
Let  be a Hilbert Space,  and  be an othonormal set. Let  , then   if  . And so for  we have that  is an orthogonal set and so:  by definition  because  is an othonormal set.  becuase the norm is always positive.
But this is for an arbitrary  and so  (in particular it converges).
Suppose that  then there exist a sequence  such that  and it's obvious that  (actually, all but finitely many terms are zero for each  ).
Remember that in a normed space  , we have that  is complete iff every absolutely convergent series is convergent. Now since  is complete we have that  converges. Now it suffices to prove that this series converges to  . 
And so  but since the limit is unique  . If  is a Hilbert basis the every  is in  and we're finished.
Okay, I think I got it right this time, but be wary anyway, who knows...
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