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| | probability A and B plays chess everyday . The probability that A beats B in any game is twice the probability that B beats A . The probability that B beats A is three times the probability that the game ends in a draw . What is the probability that the game ends in a draw ?
My working :
P(A wins ) = 2(1- P(A wins ))
P(A wins ) = 2/3
P(B wins) = 3(1-P(A wins)-P(B wins))
P(B wins) = 3(1-2/3-P(B wins ))
P(B wins )=1/4
P(draw)=1-2/3-1/4=1/12 --- my answer
My answer is wrong . I wonder where my mistake is ..... | 
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Originally Posted by mathaddict A and B plays chess everyday . The probability that A beats B in any game is twice the probability that B beats A . The probability that B beats A is three times the probability that the game ends in a draw . What is the probability that the game ends in a draw ?
My working :
P(A wins ) = 2(1- P(A wins ))
P(A wins ) = 2/3 | P(B wins) is not equal to 1- P(A wins). This is because you have to also consider the possibility of a draw.
Thus P(B wins) = 1- P(A wins ) - P(draw).
So work out the exercise again, carefully...
Good Luck
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| | Re : THanks Isomorphism ,
My second attempt :
P(A wins ) = 2[1-P(B wins)-P(draw)]
P(A wins) = 2-2P(B wins)-2P(draw) ------ 1st equation
P(B wins)= 3P(draw) ----- 2nd equation
P(draw) = 1-P(A wins)-P(B wins ) ---- 3rd equation
But after simplifying , i got P(draw)=1/4
My answer is wrong according to the book . Did i get the equations right in the first place ? Thanks for any help .. | 
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Originally Posted by mathaddict THanks Isomorphism ,
My second attempt :
P(A wins ) = 2[1-P(B wins)-P(draw)]
P(A wins) = 2-2P(B wins)-2P(draw) ------ 1st equation
P(B wins)= 3P(draw) ----- 2nd equation
P(draw) = 1-P(A wins)-P(B wins ) ---- 3rd equation
But after simplifying , i got P(draw)=1/4
My answer is wrong according to the book . Did i get the equations right in the first place ? Thanks for any help .. | Let Pr(B beats A) = Pr(A loses) = p.
Given: Pr(A beats B) = Pr(A wins) = 2p.
Given: Pr(A and B draw) = p/3.
p + 2p + (p/3) = 1.
Solve for p.
I get Pr(Draw) = 1/10.
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| | Let  be the probability of a draw,  probability of B winning and  the probability of A winning.
Then:
and of course:
or:
so:
as Mr Fantastic has.
Now the ony way out I can see is if the question asked for the odds of a draw since the odds are the ratio of favourable to unfavourable outcomes the odds are  .
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Originally Posted by Constatine11 Let  be the probability of a draw,  probability of B winning and  the probability of A winning.
Then:
and of course:
or:
so:
as Mr Fantastic has.
Now the ony way out I can see is if the question asked for the odds of a draw since the odds are the ratio of favourable to unfavourable outcomes the odds are  .
. | Which shows why it's important to understand the difference between the probability of an event as represented by:
1. A number between zero and 1 inclusive .
2. Odds of the form a : b
3. Percentage
etc.
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