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Default Integration of Logaritmic Functions

\int_1^3 (x+3)/(x^2+6x) dx = ?

I tired separating and simplifying the problem into two different integrals:

\int_1^3 1/(x+6) +\int_1^3 3/(x^2+6x)

and get...
\int_1^3 ln(x+6) + \int_1^3 3ln(x^2+6x)

evaluating I get

[ln9-ln7]+ 3[ln27+ln7]

but that is not any of the solutions.
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Try Integration by Substitution, which is basically the Chain Rule backward:

\int\,f'(g(x))g'(x)\,dx\,=\,f(g(x))\,+\,C

Letting u\,=\,g(x)\,=\,x^2\,+\,6x, we can see that du\,=\,g'(x)\,dx\,=\,(2x\,+\,6)\,dx\,=\,2(x\,+\,3)\,dx, so that the integral becomes

\int_{u\,=\,7}^{u\,=\,27}\,\frac{1}{2u}\,du.

Hope this helps.
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Natural log is supposed to be in the answer...any ideas?
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Hi frog09,

Do you understand what Scott H says in #2? He has almost completely worked the problem for you.

Cant you figure out what \int_{u\,=\,7}^{u\,=\,27}\,\frac{1}{2u}\,du is ?


If you integrate the above you will see the "supposed natural logs"
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\int_1^3 (x+3)/(x^2+6x) dx = ?

I tired separating and simplifying the problem into two different integrals:

\int_1^3 1/(x+6) +\int_1^3 3/(x^2+6x)

and get...
\int_1^3 ln(x+6) + \int_1^3 3ln(x^2+6x)

evaluating I get

[ln9-ln7]+ 3[ln27+ln7]

but that is not any of the solutions.


\begin{gathered}\int\limits_1^3 {\frac{{x + 3}}{{x^2  + 6x}}dx}  = \frac{1}{2}\int\limits_1^3 {\frac{{2x + 6}}{{x^2  + 6x}}dx = } \frac{1}{2}\int\limits_1^3 {\frac{{d\left( {x^2  + 6x} \right)}}{{x^2  + 6x}} = }  \hfill \\= \left. {\frac{1}{2}\ln \left( {x^2  + 6x} \right)} \right|_1^3  = \frac{1}{2}\left( {\ln 27 - \ln 7} \right) = \frac{1}{2}\left( {3\ln 3 - \ln 7} \right). \hfill \\\hfill \\ \end{gathered}
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Are you sure? I thought we had to change the bounds of integration after the change of variables.

Frog09, remember also that \ln\,u is defined as \int_1^u\,\frac{1}{x}\,dx.
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Except that he didn't actually change the variable, so it was ok. This is how I would keep track of it...



(As usual straight continuous lines diff or anti-diff with respect to x, straight dashed lines with respect to the dashed balloon expression.)

Don't integrate - balloontegrate! Balloon Calculus: worked examples from past papers

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Are you sure? I thought we had to change the bounds of integration after the change of variables.

Frog09, remember also that \ln\,u is defined as \int_1^u\,\frac{1}{x}\,dx.
Yes, I am sure!
In my solution we must not change the bounds of integration.
Because

\left. {\int\limits_b^a {\frac{{f'\left( x \right)}}{{f\left( x \right)}}dx = } \ln \left( {f\left( x \right)} \right)} \right|_b^a  = \ln \left| {f\left( a \right)} \right| - \ln \left| {f\left( b \right)} \right|.

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All right, I see.
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