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Originally Posted by jmoney90  Another job that pays a lot is statistician. Basically you analyze data to derive various inferences from said data, but you can always wikipedia it if you're interested. As a statistician you can be employed by many people, ranging from politicians to all levels of government to businesses, the opportunities are endless. | I am currently doing this job.
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Originally Posted by pickslides I am currently doing this job. | Wow, a statician on MHF!
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I work for a water company that has a customer base of 330,000+
I am responsible for managing and analysing our database to find trends in water consumption patterns. It gets quite complex.
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I would also like to add that I am sceptical about the existence of a job that is 9-5 and pays 100k. However, I currently spend the hours between 10am and 5:30pm as a PhD student in my office working or attending lectures and seminars and other such things, but my "hours of work" would have to include my 45 minute commute, as well as most evenings and Saturday mornings. With a good job based aroung thinking, you never stop working... |
Don't be skeptical, things will appear different once you leave academia. 
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Originally Posted by pickslides Don't be skeptical, things will appear different once you leave academia. | Should I assume that you have a 9-5 job? |
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Originally Posted by chengbin Should I assume that you have a 9-5 job? | If you are a Maths graduate and not a teacher of some kind you are still more likely to be employed that almost any other kind of graduate.
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Originally Posted by chengbin Should I assume that you have a 9-5 job? | Yah, 7 to 5 is more likely.
A friend of mine who got a job at an insurance company before he got his degree in Chemical engineering, never worked as an engineer because money is easier to earn as an insurance agent. Of course, that didn't happen over night. He said it's easier to get a job as an actuary at the company, and it doesn't require a degree in math. A business major with a few courses in statistics would do.
One of the part-time math instructor at a community college complained to me that with a PhD, he could not find a stable job, but then, there is another man in US Navy said, the Navy is looking to pay $200,000 a year for a Head mathematician.
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Originally Posted by chengbin Should I assume that you have a 9-5 job? |
I am only speaking from my experiences as an Australian citizen. We have oppurtunites for applied mathematicians that are 9-5.
Things will be different when comparing private and public sectors.
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I forgot to mention, how hard is it to get the degree necessary to get into jobs like mathematician, actuary, and statistician? |
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That is dependent on 1) ability and 2) dedication.
If you have lots of 1) and a little bit of 2) you should be fine. If you have lots of 2) and little bits of 1) you should also be fine. Having none of either will cause some major problems. 
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Originally Posted by Swlabr I would question that - last academic year was the final year of my degree so I was applying to jobs, and actuarial work appealed to me for a number of reasons. Now, I was a good student (I got consistently good grades in 4th and 5th year courses) and eventually got a first from a good university. However, I got one interview for one actuarial company, and they didn't want me. | This explains why "they didn't want [you]". If you are going to extrapolate your single experience to the whole of society, you are not cut out to be an actuary. You must learn to make  models and make  conclusions.
There are dozens of reasons why jobs are not obtained. Did you take any personality-type exams? If so, it could be that the ONLY reason you were not hired is that their exam thought you wouldn't get along with those already on staff. It happens. Maybe your shoes weren't polished. Perhaps you were not of the right ethnic group and they had a quota mandate.
Check out EVERY edition of the "Jobs Rated Almanac" - starting in 1988 or 1989, I think. Just  anything to score as high as consistently as "Actuary". http://www.beanactuary.org/
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Originally Posted by TKHunny This explains why "they didn't want [you]". If you are going to extrapolate your single experience to the whole of society, you are not cut out to be an actuary. You must learn to make models and make conclusions.
There are dozens of reasons why jobs are not obtained. Did you take any personality-type exams? If so, it could be that the ONLY reason you were not hired is that their exam thought you wouldn't get along with those already on staff. It happens. Maybe your shoes weren't polished. Perhaps you were not of the right ethnic group and they had a quota mandate.
Check out EVERY edition of the "Jobs Rated Almanac" - starting in 1988 or 1989, I think. Just anything to score as high as consistently as "Actuary". Be An Actuary | I was not trying to extrapolate (my) single experience to the whole of society. VonNemo had said something that implied that an Actuary was a relatively easy job to get into "if you love math(s)", and I was using my experience to refute this.
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Originally Posted by TKHunny This explains why "they didn't want [you]". If you are going to extrapolate your single experience to the whole of society, you are not cut out to be an actuary. You must learn to make models and make conclusions.
There are dozens of reasons why jobs are not obtained. Did you take any personality-type exams? If so, it could be that the ONLY reason you were not hired is that their exam thought you wouldn't get along with those already on staff. It happens. Maybe your shoes weren't polished. Perhaps you were not of the right ethnic group and they had a quota mandate.
Check out EVERY edition of the "Jobs Rated Almanac" - starting in 1988 or 1989, I think. Just anything to score as high as consistently as "Actuary". Be An Actuary | I am not here to be disrepectful, but you made yourself sound like a witch doctor. Personality-type exams? Only superstitious person would believe such rubbish. If it's that simple, why do we have so many problems in our society. People's personality are as unique as his finger prints. There is no science I could requard less than psychology. There are not many PhD's given in science; they are less than 2%, and yet 90% of the 2% are give to psychology major. Why? Because, it's junk science. A witch doctor can take their job easily. It's a business of persuasion, like those in car dealers or salesmen. |
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Originally Posted by TKHunny Perhaps you were not of the right ethnic group and they had a quota mandate. | Is that legal? |
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