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So I signed up because I'm in a hard place.

Basically I moved to America from Australia, and when I moved they gave me credits for Algebra I....but I've never taken algebra before (unless you count Pythagoras Theorem (love that)). So I was shoved into Algebra II... I barely passed.

Now I'm in Algebra III and still lacking the tools of Algebra I... this is my last year of highschool and if I don't pass I don't graduate. I can't pay for tutoring, and I can't always stay back. No one else in the class seems to understand..those who do I don't get along with or have no time (or both).

I understood and passed Geometry really well... but Algebra is always a struggle. My first test this year I got 16% on, the second 42%, so as you can see I'm trying. I'm not used to such bad grades, I get 90's in every other class.

I have a load of trouble with fractions, and sometimes factoring. I seem get an answer, but I do it wrong . It's not like Geometry where you're told what to use to solve it.

So I'm sorta hoping you guys can help me out a bit. I don't even have a book yet .
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Ditto to what 11rdc11 said. you don't have to wait on the text. perhaps there are some problems or concepts in your notes that you would like to go over. as well as there are tons of tutorials on the net that you can take and seek clarification here on.

Here is some info on fractions:

Visual Fractions - A Fraction Tutorial

Fraction lessons at Coolmath4kids.com - Learn how to do fractions in a clear and easy way!

Tutorial on Fractions

Fractions Tutorial

Review of Fractions

Cool math .com - Fraction lessons -- Learn how to do fractions in a clear and easy way!

Beginning Algebra Tutorial on Fractions


Here are some video/interactive tutorials on algebra:

algebasics™ Algebra Tutorials

Math Help and Algebra Help : math videos


This one is a precalculus review, so some of the stuff may be above your level, but they review some algebra concepts that you should know. just go to the section that you need help with. they run through a list of topics that they will be covering at the beginning

MidnightTutor.com Free Online Calculus and Chemistry Tutorials
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Thanks for the links!

First one's good, I get that...but every time I use that method with letters it doesnt quite work..

The second is making me laugh: "(Wouldn't The Denominator be a great name for an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie?)" LOL

I'm slowly making my way through the rest, thank you
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glad you like them.

read them through. if you have any questions, you can always come back here, or maybe consult one of the other sites.

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First one's good, I get that...but every time I use that method with letters it doesnt quite work..
what method?

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I'm slowly making my way through the rest, thank you
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Add Fractions
Subtract Fractions

I did subtract differently, but the rest was okay. You sorta can't use it with something with a + 3 + 7b 8g what ever over what ever +/x what ever...
Or you can and I'm lost..

Fraction lessons at Coolmath4kids.com - Equivalent Fractions
^ that's something I'd get stuck on... I wouldnt think to do that in a question... also I keep thinking what's done on ONE side of the equals needs to be done on the other..

Fraction lessons at Coolmath4kids.com - Equivalent Fractions Part 2
^ that's gonna help, I'd forgotten about that....

I'll keep going through these tonight and report back soon
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I did subtract differently, but the rest was okay. You sorta can't use it with something with a + 3 + 7b 8g what ever over what ever +/x what ever...
Or you can and I'm lost..
yes, adding fractions with variables in them would be a pain, if not impossible, that way

see if you get the methods of adding fractions in posts #4 and 5 here. three methods are presented. the same principle works for subtraction as well as addition. so if you understand addition, there should be no reason why you wouldn't understand subtraction. it is the same thing. you only use different signs, and when the time calls for it, you subtract instead of add

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^ that's something I'd get stuck on... I wouldnt think to do that in a question... also I keep thinking what's done on ONE side of the equals needs to be done on the other..
well, in the last example, they multiplied by 3/3, this is the same as 1. so yeah, you could do that to both sides, but it won't make a difference. you are not changing anything either way. so multiplying both sides by 1 (only on one side you write it as 3/3) is valid, and you get the desired outcome. this is a trick that is used all the time in math. multiplying by 1 in an interesting way so you can simplify or rewrite something. another trick is adding zero in an interesting way. but that's another lesson

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Fraction lessons at Coolmath4kids.com - Equivalent Fractions Part 2
^ that's gonna help, I'd forgotten about that....
good, now you remember

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ok, take your time
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So I signed up because I'm in a hard place.

Basically I moved to America from Australia, and when I moved they gave me credits for Algebra I....but I've never taken algebra before (unless you count Pythagoras Theorem (love that)). So I was shoved into Algebra II... I barely passed.

Now I'm in Algebra III and still lacking the tools of Algebra I... this is my last year of highschool and if I don't pass I don't graduate. I can't pay for tutoring, and I can't always stay back. No one else in the class seems to understand..those who do I don't get along with or have no time (or both).

I understood and passed Geometry really well... but Algebra is always a struggle. My first test this year I got 16% on, the second 42%, so as you can see I'm trying. I'm not used to such bad grades, I get 90's in every other class.

I have a load of trouble with fractions, and sometimes factoring. I seem get an answer, but I do it wrong . It's not like Geometry where you're told what to use to solve it.

So I'm sorta hoping you guys can help me out a bit. I don't even have a book yet .
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Welcome to the forum, and enjoy your stay with us.

It's great to finally see a student who's willing to put some effort into understanding her work, and we are more than willing to be your tutors.
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Well, hope this helps.

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a nice site! it covers a wide range of topics and seems to go through them at a slow pace. it seems you have to pay to get the full use out of it though, which is bad for us poor students. i still don't think it would be a waste of time to check out the site though. there are some short (free ) tutorial videos
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Here is a site I found when Mathstud28 was having a hard time looking for a good Algebra I review resource on the web.

Although this is more of a resource for college algebra classes, they have many, many useful tutorials on here .

*EDIT* I just noticed how each page tutorial ends with a section of links to help you better understand in that particular tutorial. This looks like a superb resource for those who need clarifications or just need a better understanding of what goes on in algebra.

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Welcome to the forum, and enjoy your stay with us.

It's great to finally see a student who's willing to put some effort into understanding her work, and we are more than willing to be your tutors.
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No one else is willing?


Thanks guys for all the links, I'm going to have those notes my teacher never gives now .

I need notes to understand... When I took them in other classes not only did I get 90+ on tests, but I'd retain the information. When I missed some I started sinking down to 75+ .

I miss Geometry lol... there are too many bad teachers out there. If I were a teacher the kids wouldnt need google to find this site...

My past math teacher "taught by example". That is he would do two problems on the board and set us work. I didnt realise why I wasnt getting it...then I asked him how he got from one step to the next... he hadnt written down a step which was devision, and expected me to pick up on it. The other one was missing the step for timesing by the reciprocal (the outcome was there, but no indication was made).

I love mathmatical proofs. They say why and how in one column .
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For those of you thinking I've disappeared, I havent . I've been round reading some things, seeing if I can do problems before seeing the solution and stuff.

Anyway, I had two triumphs recently. We were learning about absolute value, and stuff with ^ and V... I don't know what it's called (the "and", and "or" stuff), and the teacher was having a REALLY hard time explaining. She had a number line on the board and was trying to explain why: x > -2 ^ x > 5 was false (assuming I remembered right and ^ is and). She said, and I quote, "Are you telling me 6 is greater than -2?" Class says yes, "No, it's not."

So I'm sitting there with my number line trying to figure out how the hell 6 is not greater than -2. And I was seriously wondering if I'd been taught wrong with number lines way back when.

So I tuned her out and tried to figure out how the problem was supposed to be an OR statement...and I'm sitting there thinking 6 IS greater than both of them... theres a long gap in thinking and then I wondered what about 3?

I got it, and I raised my hand and asked if I could explain, she said yes. I walked up to the board and everyone was laughing at me. She said "What?! You don't think you can learn anything from her? Be quiet" and I about fainted...she's never been nice to me like that before - in a way that says I might actually know something.

I circled everything between -2 and 5, and said simply "these are NOT greater than 5, therefore x is greater than -2 OR x is greater than 5".

The class was silent, and I sat down all happy and the teacher said I got it down .

My other triumph, was literally the next day when we were learning about true values....I'm talking about | 2 + x | > 6x + 7 or something random like that. I got an 80% (B) on my homework .

So I can do it, I just need to understand it first .
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For those of you thinking I've disappeared, I havent . I've been round reading some things, seeing if I can do problems before seeing the solution and stuff.

Anyway, I had two triumphs recently. We were learning about absolute value, and stuff with ^ and V... I don't know what it's called (the "and", and "or" stuff), and the teacher was having a REALLY hard time explaining. She had a number line on the board and was trying to explain why: x > -2 ^ x > 5 was false (assuming I remembered right and ^ is and). She said, and I quote, "Are you telling me 6 is greater than -2?" Class says yes, "No, it's not."

So I'm sitting there with my number line trying to figure out how the hell 6 is not greater than -2. And I was seriously wondering if I'd been taught wrong with number lines way back when.

So I tuned her out and tried to figure out how the problem was supposed to be an OR statement...and I'm sitting there thinking 6 IS greater than both of them... theres a long gap in thinking and then I wondered what about 3?

I got it, and I raised my hand and asked if I could explain, she said yes. I walked up to the board and everyone was laughing at me. She said "What?! You don't think you can learn anything from her? Be quiet" and I about fainted...she's never been nice to me like that before - in a way that says I might actually know something.

I circled everything between -2 and 5, and said simply "these are NOT greater than 5, therefore x is greater than -2 OR x is greater than 5".

The class was silent, and I sat down all happy and the teacher said I got it down .

My other triumph, was literally the next day when we were learning about true values....I'm talking about | 2 + x | > 6x + 7 or something random like that. I got an 80% (B) on my homework .

So I can do it, I just need to understand it first .
Well done!

What is it with American kids always seeming to be laughing at other people in schools?

In my school we used to clap hands when a kid did a problem on the board like that
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That's what happened in Aus too (clapping)!
I think they were laughing cause I'm always the one to ask for another example, or for more help, so in their head I was stupid .
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