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Thank you. I will look into Northwestern University...and yes....that is the school TPH goes to. I can give Jhevon and him a hug when I visit it.
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Ok, that is probably a good idea. Way too soon. Ok then, if no one has any ideas how about this approach. These are the schools I am considering. Can anyone tell me if any are particularly good or bad?

MIT
Colombia
University of Chicago
Carnegie Melon University
Rose-Hulman
Drexel
UC Berkely
CCNY
I don't have a strong mathematical background, but here is what I know.
MIT: Everyone knows about MIT's reputation. My advisor went there and many graduate students at my school were from MIT.
Columbia: I don't really hear much about its math program.
University of Chicago: Well-known for math as I know
Carnegie Melon University: I hear about it as much as Chicago
Drexel: One of my physics professor went there, but I have no idea about the school.
UC Berkeley: I'm a graduating undergrad here. I don't do great in my classes, but I have to admit I really like it here. You posts on the forum show that you have a very strong mathematical background. It's kinda embarrassing to say but I see you know more math than me (a graduating senior). Berkeley offers honor math courses, so students like you can challenge themselves if the regular courses are easy for them. Lots of well-known mathematicians did and are doing research here. The graduate program in mathematics here is considered second to none in the country.
You can find more information about Berkeley mathematics on the department website.
University of Northwestern: One of my professors did his Ph.D there. I hear it's also an excellent school for math.
Here are some other schools in California that are well-known for mathematics:
UCLA: If you want to study with Terrence Tao
Harvey Mudd College: I don't know if you heard of this school,but it's a small college with a prestigious undergrad math program
CalTech
Stanford

What other factors that you look for besides the fact that the school has a strong math program? I think many school listed above will accept you. California has very nice weather. People are very friendly and open-minded. Berkeley is very famous for being one of the most liberal city in U.S (people are crazy here) I know lots of people choose their schools because of not only the programm offered, but also the lifestyle there fits their personality.
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i don't know that much about universities in your country but my choice would be one of these two:

1. UCSD (Efim Zelmanov and Lance Small are in this university ... that's good enough for me!)

2. Stanford university (very strong in algebraic geometry)
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Waterloo University in waterloo canada! Great math program there.
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Go to a community college and get straight A's in all of your college level courses. If you truly know a high level of math, quiz out of the course. It will save you a fortune in lost time taking classes, work experience and tuition. Think about it, you could place out of lower level math courses, get credit for them, and only have to do GE courses, to get out of the community college. Someone who could not do it, would spend a lot longer in school than you would. This could potentially save you up to $75,000. Why, because you get into the work force faster(assuming you graduate on time) and you save money on tuition and possible loans. You may also score a higher salary if you can score high marks in your major. My friend applied to UC Berkley from a community college and had at least 5 fails on his record, and he was still accepted from the CC (word to the wise, write a darn good essay for admission). If you get high marks and test out of math courses, you will definitely get in.

If you are planning to go to graduate school, then no one will even care where your bachelor's is from. In California, the Universities are accepting more students who come from State schools to be more diversified. Learn about the system and use it to your favor. No need to compete for an elite school fresh out of high school, unless you play sports or plan on going to Ivy League like Harvard or Yale.

Finally, it really depends on the job that you want to do. I would never go to berkeley to become an Actuary, but I might to become a professor. UC Santa Barbara has a better program in my opinion (I live in Cali). I do know that USC only cared about English and Math grades from high school students. I guess what I am saying is to look around, there are many ways to skin the academic cat.
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Something else that you should know, UC Berkley is a public school. So tuition is the same as UCLA. If you are an out of state resident though it will be high, but still probably cheaper than a private school.

I disagree with the people who say not to pick your major right away. Give it some thought yes, but by the time you have knocked out your GEs you had better know what you want to do, or you will end up in college for 6 years for a 4 year degree. Think about this, who will the employer want to hire, someone who took longer with a high GPA or someone who did it on time and under budget with a slightly less than high GPA.

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders, I am just giving you a heads up on what you are in for.

After reading the entire post again I would like to add something else. You say that you have a problem with the SATs. I agree that bureaucrats have tests that are terrible indicators for most things. However, that is what they do and they have set the system up that way. You need to work inside of this system in order to succeed. Believe it or not, most of College is working within the system and learning how to excel within it, despite the ridiculous barriers that are all around you. It tells your future employer that you are trainable and can succeed in even the most boring environment doing things that you do not want to do (get up on time, complete assignments on time, writing reports, etc). So my advice to you is to rethink your approach and realize that in order to prove that you are the best, you will need to have evidence that the school will accept, not what you think they should accept.

One of the biggest lessons in life that I have learned is that we have to work with the way things are and not with what we think they should be. I think my community college approach will work best for you. It will save you a ton of money and time. You will not fall into the freshman trap of being away from home, partying it up and flunking out. You may even get into that top school that you want to get into just not straight out of high school. Good luck to you and learn from those who have gone down the road before you.

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