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November 3rd, 2006, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by da_warped_1 BTW captainblack, being that pedantic about the definition of logic or a possible example only further emphasises your inability to function as rest do in human society! | This is an ad-hominem argument or attack, and is unacceptable here. If it was
on anyone else I would ban you straight off. As it is on me I will warn you -
do it again and I will delete the offending text, a third time and I will ban you.
Do it to anyone else even once and I will ban you if nobody gets there first.
Also, as it happens I manage to function quite well in human society, passing
for normal most of the time.
Finally, logic is the playground of the pedant, you cannot have a discussion
about logic without being pedantic - its the nature of the beast.
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November 3rd, 2006, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by da_warped_1 ok, let me explain this to you's for the last time. lets imagine the notion of rounding figures did not exist, as in there was no reason for it to exist. Then one day someone comes to you and lies these rules of rounding figures in front of you.
Do you think that it would be a little illogical that rounding figures up, by ADDING IMAGINARY UNITS (my main concern) rather than rounding down and removing units that already exist. This is what im arguing about, adding imaginary units so the number jst seems illogical even to a mathematical point of view, how can u jst pull these numbers out from no where, even you guys can realise that point!! | All numbers are an abstraction from experience, so are in some sense
imaginary as in the sense of only existing in the minds of sentient beings
or in the Platonic world of Ideal Forms. In this context rounding up makes
at least as much sense as rounding down, as we are not talking about
anything with a physical existence or limited by physics.
The 3 or the 0.7 in 3.7 has no greater existential status than the 4 or 0.3
involved in rounding up.
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November 3rd, 2006, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by da_warped_1 ok, let me explain this to you's for the last time. lets imagine the notion of rounding figures did not exist, as in there was no reason for it to exist. Then one day someone comes to you and lies these rules of rounding figures in front of you.
Do you think that it would be a little illogical that rounding figures up, by ADDING IMAGINARY UNITS (my main concern) rather than rounding down and removing units that already exist. This is what im arguing about, adding imaginary units so the number jst seems illogical even to a mathematical point of view, how can u jst pull these numbers out from no where, even you guys can realise that point!!
So if you can forget ur mathematical knowledge behind, regardless of this is thinking logical or not, just what makes sense...
BTW captainblack, being that pedantic about the definition of logic or a possible example only further emphasises your inability to function as rest do in human society!
oh and theperfecthacka, cheers for the sensorship, i didnt kno that there were kid in this forum!!
eubaldo shout out!! | How many times can you be told that your question makes no sense. Perhaps you should take a course in logic so you can learn what thinking logically actually means. Captain Black has answered your question using logic.
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November 3rd, 2006, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainBlack Reminds me of a joke as well:
The head of Physics goes to see the Vice-Chancellor (that the Principal in
a UK University) to ask for a seven figure sum for the latest superconducting
super widget for their experiment at CERN.
The Vice-Chancellor tells him "Why can't you be more like the Maths
department all they ever ask for is money for pencils paper and waste paper
bins, or better yet the Philosophy department who only ever ask for money
for pencils and paper"
(This joke dates from before the era of large scale Computational Philosophy) | I have heard that joke. Most people cannot understand it. | 
November 3rd, 2006, 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePerfectHacker I have heard that joke. Most people cannot understand it. | The implication is that the Philosophers never discard their mistakes.
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