Ok,

First I would like to say I mean no offense at this topic or question, I am posting in the lounge after all.

Ok, basically I am honestly fascinated by people who enjoy mathmatics.
As long as I can remember, I have always had a discourse for math. I start to do a problem and half way through I feel as though I am dying with boredom. My mind starts to drift about anything, sex, anything...

Like there is no life in what I am reading. It has always been absolute torture for me. I generally get A's or B's in other classes, including science, but raw math by itself drives me nuts.

What motivates you guys? Do you genuinely enjoy solving a complex math problem? How do you view people such as myself who cannot stand math(it is ok to be honest) Do you view people as myself inferior?

Just curious.

Thanks.

A person can doubt anything in the universe except for math. If you are able to understand it then it shall be thy greatest cup of salvation. Nothing makes so much perfect sense. Everything is explained with perfect detail and understandable to the full end. Nothing! Besides for math has this.
Yes.

I consider these people to be inferior sub-humans.

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Thanks for your reply.

I think having a thirst for something has a lot to do with it. I think that is something that is innate. It is a talent that most people do not have.

People have said there is nothing more perfect than math. That is it almost divine. But where is the salvation in it?

It has no heart, no pulse, only manipulation of what already exists.

Close to every genius has been a mathmatican. I can understand how one would feel superior to others that do not have this skill.

Remember however, even Einstein believed that virtue, ethics, and value topple all of knowledge.

My friend, you are very intelligent. However, don't mistake knowledge for wisdom.

What good is your life if you are not happy? You only live once. We are not computers that need nothing but electricity.

If you could pick to have 100 million dollars, understand how the world works, but never be able to be touched by another human again would you take it?

Or, the other option is to not have the 100 million dollars, not understand the complexities of math, but allow human touch.

My only other arguement would be(and again I do think you are very intelligent) is that what you manipulate is what is already out there to find. You are not alone in being able to find the answers to a complex problem. But to touch other with your soul is unique.

Which is more Godly to me? To me it is touch for that is individual.

Anyway, you are using your talent to help people, so thank you.


ps.(I may have to take the question I posted down earlier. I am very greatful to Galactus for responding. THANK YOU. But if I leave it up and my teacher finds it, I may get in trouble)

The correct term is "intelligence". Knowledge comes through practice, wisdom comes through age, and intellegce comes from God. Intellegnce is something a person cannot improve by himself. If a person is able to understand we can say that person was given the intellegence.

It is sufficient (though not necessary) for me to understand how the world works.

On the contary, I am doing this because I entertain myself. Anything which is caused by this is secondary.

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over people is to assure the people that they are ruling
themselves. Once they believe that, they make wonderfully
submissive slaves." - Joseph Sobran

"On the contary, I am doing this because I entertain myself. Anything which is caused by this is secondary"

A gentlemen and a scholar I see.

No, but seriously at least it is helping people. However, human nature is selfish anyway, so you do not neccesarily owe anyone anything.

However, remember you are not an island. Eventually, you too will need help in some area.

"The correct term is "intelligence". Knowledge comes through practice, wisdom comes through age, and intellegce comes from God. Intellegnce is something a person cannot improve by himself. If a person is able to understand we can say that person was given the intellegence."

Knowledge does come through practice, I agree. And wisdom does come through age as well. Good point.

However, if intelligence is given from God, how can not one improve it on his own? If it is given from God, shouldn't one already have it and not need it from others?

What ImPerferctHacker is concealing is that a number of the forum leaders
activities are a cover for a plan to take control of the major financial
institutions and so the world. The good news is that we are all trying to
take over the world in competion with one another.

CaptainBlack's mantra: "Maths is simple if you are having trouble
understanding something in maths you are thinking about it in the wrong
way; so try another"

RonL

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I knew you guys were trying to rule the world.

I knew it, I Knew it, I knew it!~

Imagine if you guys used your power for bad. That wouldn't be good. Lex Luther or something.

I have always had trouble in math. I think it is because I do not devote enough time to it. Then when I get to a problem I think is hard I give up because it looks like mumbo jumbo to me.

There are some interesting posts on this forum though. I like reading them. I think once I understand a little more about the history of math and why people use it to seek truths, it will become more interesting to me.

I myself knew its history quite well. I want to buy this book. But I cannot replace the time I spend learning math for learning its history. It seems to have everything in to.

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"Democracy has proved only that the best way to gain power
over people is to assure the people that they are ruling
themselves. Once they believe that, they make wonderfully
submissive slaves." - Joseph Sobran

Math is beautiful. Math is one among a very few number of things here we can take for true and granted. And in spite of that math with it's simplicity can show many relations between numbers and represent many forms of shapes, behaviours, etc. in real world by only a short equation or formula, it can show great complexity. It never seems to end. One can't learn it all or discover everything, mathematics is an undiscovered world. Why does for example the Fibonacci numbers and the golden ratio show up here and there in real world?

Mathematics makes it possible to make up new beautiful arts and shapes, take the mandelbrot fractal for example. Mathematics makes it possible to tell how the world behaves (physics) without even having tested it. Like the theory of relativity, it started as a theory and was then gradually discovered to be true.

No, really not, I can't say I'm having a big company in enjoying math.

No were not, were just trying to make life miserable (although I'm not really a mathematician)

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But that's not true, chancer. I hope you understand that it's not true, that is just a lie!!!

It makes me really angry when a person who knows little in one area attacks another. For example, I know absolutely nothing about abstract expressionism but I am able to understand that there is something that people like about it, art does not have to be realistic, just like math does not need to be applied*). Whenever these people come to me and say "you should do applied math" it makes me so angry, my blood runs cold and so by degrees. Because these type of people know absolutely nothing about math and already are making predictions.

*)I came to this revealation in my Art class (yes I am taking a college course in Art, embarassing, I know. (But maybe I am the next Renaissance man))

Same by Augustine, he probably knew nothing about math, and thought it was like science, which is sometimes blashmeous.

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"Democracy has proved only that the best way to gain power
over people is to assure the people that they are ruling
themselves. Once they believe that, they make wonderfully
submissive slaves." - Joseph Sobran

I hate to be in the position of explaining Augustine, as his is one of my
favourite quotes when taken out of its context, but Mathematician in this
quote means Astrologer.

RonL

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I agree, PH. 'Monday morning quarterbacks' are irritating. These people have no interest and passion for math the way you do and think that if it isn't used in everyday life it serves no purpose. How narrow-minded.

I enjoy solving maths problems, im more of a number person than a essay kind of person.

Now my maths skills are really being tested as I have just enroled on a masters mechanical engineering course