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Old June 18th, 2009, 11:49 PM
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Default Ex-girlfriends...is she bitter?

Lol, this kind of feels odd posting this on a math website. I don't really go to other forums though. I took the liberty of * the cusswords as I don't want an infraction.

Well, I was talking to my ex-girlfriend earlier about my present girlfriend and I was just wondering if you could tell if she was bitter or not from conversation:

Me: I guess she's clingy somewhat lately. But there have been bad things going on in her life, so I don't really blame her for needing someone. Especially your own boyfriend. I always ask her if she's concerned about our relationship. She seems like she is at night. Like I'll leave her or something.
Her: I dunno she just used to tell me that you guys were arguing a lot. and that you were an *** hole. lol.
Me: Yeah. She always calls me an ******* when we argue.
Her: But i couldn't be asked with it because she took you away from me so she can ******* deal with the **** that comes her way.
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Her:...This doesn't really sound much like a relationship to me, sorry to be blunt but I'm entitled to my own opinions...arguing all the time?you want to spend the rest of your life with her?
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I call these the hurtful bits:

Me: Was it easy? Forgetting?
Her: Honestly?
Me: Honestly.
Her: Yes. Mostly because I have this talent at being able to just dissociate from whatever I want. Like you and Laur. Like my best friend Jo. I didn't speak to her for 6 months over something so silly, and she ended up saying sorry. That and I went into something totally new and different and exciting, there were no memories and so it's not like the thought of what happened popped up everywhere, which it probably would have done if I was still at home. And it was kinda easy to forget because i was just so... so mad at you both so i was like **** this haha. You?

Me: Things aren't easy to forget. I can ignore them for some time. Go months completely without a thought of it. But it only lasts so long before something will remind me.And then for the whole day I'll be on that path in my mind. May last a week.
But I just try to push it down. I don't remember all these things because I thought of you constantly. I'm sure there's a lot more that I remember. It's just kind of put into this box that somehow the lock would swing open and the contents would be available to look at. My past life. What happened. Same goes for everything but the important things that made their mark I really remember. Sometimes I'd need a beer to get over it.
Sometimes I just busied myself so much I would leave it alone.
My mind doesn't like forgetting even though I'd want it to.

Her: Hmm. I would have expected it to be easy for you because you had Lauren.

Me: No. It wasn't easy.
Her: Why you loved her! lmfao!
Me: Of course I did. But you knew back then. I loved you both. To me even that sounds ridiculous. But that's just how I felt
and it's history now.

Her: Lol well I understand love a bit better now... and I look back on it and don't really think of it as love. You can't love someone you don't know, in my eyes. I didn't even know you really.

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Her: Haha yeah. woah I can't believe you remember this much
I don't remember much at all cause my life changed so i kinda forgot a lot... plus I wanted to forget it

- End of hurtful bits-

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Her: Does Lauren know you've started talking to me again?
Me: No. I thought it was inconsequential.
Her: Good it's probably best you don't tell her.
Me: Yes, I thought that would be for the best. She would worry when there's nothing to worry about.
Her:Yeah exactly. She'd hype it up and think that we were going to fall in love and all that ****. Which wont happen.
Me: Yes, it's an impossibility.
Her: Exactly.
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Me: No. I thought it was inconsequential.
Dude you don't understand women.
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talking to my ex-girlfriend earlier about my present girlfriend and I was just wondering if you could tell if she was bitter or not from conversation:
You think she's bitter you just need some confirmation.
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Dude you don't understand women.
You're right. I probably don't understand women enough.
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You're right. I probably don't understand women enough.
No one will ever really understand them. Most women I know agree with this. Most women I know don't understand women. You just learn bits and pieces along the way.
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No one will ever really understand them. Most women I know agree with this. Most women I know don't understand women. You just learn bits and pieces along the way.
I mean, when is it treading on someone's toes? I suppose I could flat out ask her if she's been lying to my face about having moved on and being able to get over it so quickly.

I don't know. There's something inside my brain telling me that she might want to hurt me back or something when all I really want to do is be her friend again. We started out as friends. After that, well, it's a long story.

I don't even really know what to do anymore about this. Should I just drop the idea of being her friend, give her a goodbye, and leave her life forever?
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Cut ties, move on. You'll be much happier.
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It sounds easy in theory, but I'm not so sure in practice...

Oh well. Thank you for your help.
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Hey bro, I've been with a lot of women, and let me tell you this: They don't forget ANYTHING!

For some reason she's telling you it was easy to forget because she doesn't want to upset you, but at the same time, telling you that your relationship was no big deal (which she does not believe by the way). This is Probably because she wants to get back together with you. She's being your shoulder to cry on. Eventually she's going to start slipping in little remarks about how stupid your girfriend is, or how she doesn't care about you, etc..

My advice. Sever all ties with one of them immediately. It will sting a little bit, but this sting pales in comparison to what you are headed for.
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Well, that confuses me a bit more. See she has this person named Peter she's got an attachment to. They're not officially in a relationship, she says. We haven't caught up much about relationships outside of our history together...

All I know is A) She likes the guy a lot. B) She talks to him frequently. C) She appears to be happy with him.

I'm thinking she might just be trying to make me feel bad by showing me what a shining example of awesomeness this new guy is, but I don't know. I'm not jealous or anything of him, I'm actually glad that this person is contributing to her happiness...I'm just wondering what she wants with me then.

Is she just trying to lure me in and then go in for that fatal wound? I guess severing all ties would be the best choice as it's been mentioned twice...
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of course we forget things !
Now there can be a whole discussion about what we really forget :P
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No one will ever really understand them. Most women I know agree with this. Most women I know don't understand women. You just learn bits and pieces along the way.
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Question (if you want to answer) - how old are you?

I think in general it's difficult to get an unbiased opinion/observation of a situation from someone who is emotionally tied to you. Your ex sounds emotionally tied to both you and your current girlfriend so I think more bias will come into play. More later depending on if you tell me how old you are
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I'm 19. My ex turns 19 July 3rd.
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Yeah dude, 19? WOWWWWWWWW......

She definitely is feeling a little jealous and bitter right now. Do yourself a favor man. Hang up the phone!
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