Man! that is discouraging!

I googled "help with math", and MHF appeared on the third page.

I googled "math help", which I thought that MHF would appear like first or something, but alas, it turned up on the second page!

What's going on here?

I went to the first listing, and it was terrible! The only thing they offered were worksheets, free tutor searches ( where you have to pay the tutors once you find them), and some other crap that isn't going to help someone.

We've got hundreds of tutors here that provide their services for free 24-7!

Does anyone here believe that MHF IS NOT the hottest thing smokin' on the web right now? And if not, what can we do to get MHF on that first page?

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In bing.com, "math forum" places MHF as tenth, or last in the first page.
In google it's like number 22 or so. (first page for me since it displays 100 results per page). I agree that it's deceiving... I can't even imagine how people found PHF, or CHF without passing by MHF.

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Isaac

Yeah, it's crazy man. This thing is world wide and there's only fifty or so members that I see regularyly.

As far as bing.com goes, it's cool that MHF ranks a little higher, but that is contrary to what should be happening. If you look up to the right hand coner of this post, you'll see that all ads are powered by google! Where's the love man!

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This seems peculiar, it used to be near the top of the hit list for such searches.

CB

I found this on the google site which gives information and ideas with respect to appearing further up the google searches.

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Search engine optimization is a complicated thing and I believe there exist people who can make careers off of helping websites optimize their status. MathGuru and I are aware of how MHF is doing on the search engines and try to keep up with the latest trends, but I believe the best thing anyone can do to help the situation is to tell everyone you know about MHF! I am still trying to get a flyer made that can be hosted on MHF for download. Spread the word and get more people to come!

You know, that can be effected by other means. Why not do something here that no one else is doing that's really cool. Lemme see, lemme see . . . how about . . .

1. Interactive 3D graphics capabilities? That would certainly improve teaching how to visualize and construct triple integrals.

2. How about integrating a Mathematica player so that users could run player-interactive mathematica code?

3. How about improving the search engine so that users can input a latex formula and the search engine is smart enough to find all occurrences of that formula and any variations of it.

4. How about making upgrades like extending the 450 character string limit, replacing the time-consuming math and /math tags with $$ tags, and oh yeah, add a Complex Analysis forum just to spite AoPs.

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"I am beset by the ironies in my life"

That would be nice. It really confused me in my first post here!

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There's a "sigma" button when you write a post. It automatically writes over the text you selected with your mouse. It's pretty useful. (You can type a long latex expression and when finished, select it with your mouse and then push the "sigma" button. Done. You didn't even have to type $ $ nor .)

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. . . alright, I tried it. Didn't notice it. But . . . that ain't good enough. Suppose I write a paragraph with 20 or so embedded latex blocks, or just 5 or 10. Selecting, then choosing the sigma for each one is still too time-consuming; quicker to type in the math blocks for each. No offense Jameson and Arbolis. But the $$ for a centered latex block and single $ for in-line latex is in my opinion the most efficient way to input post and no don't tell me "well, then just run off to AoPS and type your post then" -- those guys there are way too . . . what's just the right word I'm lookin' for? I have to think about it .

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I am not going to tell you to go to another forum to type your post because I think we have the best forum on the net. Your comments are valid and I will see what we can do. It's just quite difficult to make this change when we have almost 300k posts with [math] tags in them. I will see what I can do, but this particular problem may have to stay for a while. Sorry.

I am interested in hearing your other suggestions, criticisms and feedback.

Hello Jameson. I'm just funnin' with the AoPS thing. Did you know I use to be a hacker? Databases too! Once I went into a million-record database, searched for a particular 2-byte word, then flipped one bit of that word in every single record containing the word, all under FDA supervision. Can we not flip every single occurrence of math and /math with $$, change the latex interpreter, then tell everyone from now on, use $? I don't know. Maybe things are different now. I really don't mind much the math tags unless I would input a lot of latex code.

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Hi, Interestingly wen I googled these phrases, math help forum appears in the first 10 results for both of them

Information you should probably not post on an information superhighway bill board.

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Yes, of course something like this is possible. Can I personally do it? No. To be honest though I just don't think having the [math]tags are that much of an inconvenience to everyone. Other changes would be far more beneficial to MHF.