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| | Transformation/change of variables in differential equation Maybe my background is just weak...I was thinking about this for almost 1.5 hours already, but I still end up totally confused. Perhaps this is because I was never able to understand the ideas of a function and change of variables completely...perhaps I have a serious conceptual flaw.
======================================== Consider the following partial differential equation with initial values(IV) and boundary conditions(BC): u_t - k u_xx = x + 2t, 1<x<7, t>0 BC: u(1,t) = u(7,t) = 0 IV: u(x,0) = x+5 Our goal is to transform the above to the interval [0,6]. Let w = x-1. Transform the whole problem to the interval w E [0,6]. (write in terms of w)
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u_x = u_w dw/dx = (u_w) (1) = u_w
u_xx = ...(apply chain rule again) = u_ww
[On the left side, think of u as u(x,t). On the right side, think of u as u(w,t)]
BC:
x=1 <=> w=0
x=7 <=> w=6
So the boundary conditions get transformed to u(0,t)=u(6,t)=0 [here think of u as u(w,t)]
IV:
We know u(x,0) = x+5
=> u(w,0) = w+5 [I believe the logic in this step cannot be wrong, consider e.g. f(4z)=cos(4z), now how do we find f(4z-y)? Of course, f(4z-y)=cos(4z-y). How do we find f(z)? Surely, f(z)=cos(z). Right??]
So my final answer is: [here think of u as u(w,t)]
u_t - k u_ww = w+1+2t, 0<w<6, t>0
BC: u(0,t) = u(6,t) = 0 IV: u(w,0) = w+5
However, I really have some bad feeling that the result u(w,0) = w+5 is wrong, but I don't know where the mistake is.
I tried to calculate it in a different way and the answer is the same.
u(w,0)
= u(x-1,0) = (x-1)+5
=> u(w,0) = w+5
Can someone please kindly explain why and where my mistake is? What is the correct answer?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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November 2nd, 2009, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by kingwinner Maybe my background is just weak...I was thinking about this for almost 1.5 hours already, but I still end up totally confused. Perhaps this is because I was never able to understand the ideas of a function and change of variables completely...perhaps I have a serious conceptual flaw.
======================================== Consider the following partial differential equation with initial values(IV) and boundary conditions(BC): u_t - k u_xx = x + 2t, 1<x<7, t>0 BC: u(1,t) = u(7,t) = 0 IV: u(x,0) = x+5 Our goal is to transform the above to the interval [0,6]. Let w = x-1. Transform the whole problem to the interval w E [0,6]. (write in terms of w)
================================================
u_x = u_w dw/dx = (u_w) (1) = u_w
u_xx = ...(apply chain rule again) = u_ww
[On the left side, think of u as u(x,t). On the right side, think of u as u(w,t)]
BC:
x=1 <=> w=0
x=7 <=> w=6
So the boundary conditions get transformed to u(0,t)=u(6,t)=0 [here think of u as u(w,t)]
IV:
We know u(x,0) = x+5
=> u(w,0) = w+5 [I believe the logic in this step cannot be wrong, consider e.g. f(4z)=cos(4z), now how do we find f(4z-y)? Of course, f(4z-y)=cos(4z-y). How do we find f(z)? Surely, f(z)=cos(z). Right??]
So my final answer is: [here think of u as u(w,t)]
u_t - k u_ww = w+1+2t, 0<w<6, t>0
BC: u(0,t) = u(6,t) = 0 IV: u(w,0) = w+5
However, I really have some bad feeling that the result u(w,0) = w+5 is wrong, but I don't know where the mistake is.
I tried to calculate it in a different way and the answer is the same.
u(w,0)
= u(x-1,0) = (x-1)+5
=> u(w,0) = w+5
Can someone please kindly explain why and where my mistake is? What is the correct answer?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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| | Maybe it's u(w,0) = x+6. But can you please tell me where my mistake is? Also, HOW did you get u(w,0) = x+6?
We know u(x,0) = x+5
=> u(w,0) = w+5 ? I believe the logic in this step cannot be wrong, consider e.g. f(4z)=cos(4z), now how do we find f(4z-y)? Of course, f(4z-y)=cos(4z-y). How do we find f(z)? Surely, f(z)=cos(z). Right??
u(w,0)
= u(x-1,0) = (x-1)+5
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