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Could someone explain to me why the set of all elements of R^3 with the first component of 1 is not a real vector space? I'm lost on this one. Thanks,

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Could someone explain to me why the set of all elements of R^3 with the first component of 1 is not a real vector space? I'm lost on this one. Thanks,
It can't be a vector space because this set is not closed under addition :

\begin{pmatrix}
1\\
0\\
0
\end{pmatrix}
+\begin{pmatrix}
1\\
0\\
0
\end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix}
2\\
0\\
0
\end{pmatrix}
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Could someone explain to me why the set of all elements of R^3 with the first component of 1 is not a real vector space? I'm lost on this one. Thanks,

Kim
To be a vector space all linear combinations of elements would have to be in the set, but as the sum of any two elements is not in the set it is not a vector space.

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Consider vectors: \bold{u} = (1, u_{2}, u_{3}) and \bold{v} = (1, v_{2}, v_{3}).

One of the axioms state that if u and v are vectors in your vector space, then so should u + v. However:
\bold{u} + \bold{v} = (2, u_{2} + v_{2}, u_{3} + v_{3})

which does not belong in your vector space.
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