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I did a case analysis on b mod 6 and found the congruences a has to satisfy, but I don't think my answer is right... Any good resources on modular arithmetic are appreciated also!
EDIT: Sorry, clarification. I am looking for necessary and sufficient conditions that a and b satisfy the congruence. Like I said, I broke into cases on a and b mod 6 and got as my answer 
but the process is ugly and I don't think I'm right - -;
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I did a case analysis on b mod 6 and found the congruences a has to satisfy, but I don't think my answer is right... Any good resources on modular arithmetic are appreciated also! | Let  and then  and this is not true. | 
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Originally Posted by ThePerfectHacker Let  and then  and this is not true. | I think the question was to solve for a and b. Would your case exclude all possibilities for some reason?
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So one of the conditions will be that  is a multiple of 3.
- If a is even, that is to say a=2k, then  . But  .
Therefore  << OK.
- If a is odd, that is to say a=2k+1,  << NOT OK.
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Now,  .  denotes Euler's totient function, and is used for Euler's theorem : Quote:
if x and n are coprime, then : | This is why you should study the congruences modulo 6.  , therefore,
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Now, you know that a is even. So the only possibilities are :
And from here, I don't know any other way than trial and errors  , and being helped by the property  .
I hope this helps you...
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Thus:
In fact (we can also go from bottom to top in the above argument)  supposing
If  but  (one of those options) for all naturals  , thus it is absurd to assume that b is even
If  (1) which is possible and in fact there are infinitely many  s that satisfy that congruence.
Note that:  ,since  it follows that  satisfies (1) for all natural numbers  (in fact it must be of that form)
In conclusion  must be odd and  for some natural number
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Originally Posted by Moo Now, you know that a is even. So the only possibilities are :
And from here, I don't know any other way than trial and errors  , and being helped by the property  . | If  ,  -->
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If  -->
We want  .  .
We want b such that  . Dividing by 3, we get
We can use Euler's theorem (or Fermat's little theorem, since 3 is prime).
2 & 3 are coprime.
So  , with *
Therefore  is solution.
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If  -->
We want b such that  , that is to say  .
By dividing by 3 :
Similarly to above, we get this :  , with *
Therefore
Therefore, b has to be odd.  is solution.
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