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I have so far managed to show that the series converges for each  and that this series defines a continuous function  . I am however struggling to show that:
(i)  is differentiable and that  for all  .
(ii)  is differentiable and that  for all  .
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by davidmccormick Consider the function  .
I have so far managed to show that the series converges for each  and that this series defines a continuous function  . I am however struggling to show that:
(i)  is differentiable and that  for all  .
(ii)  is differentiable and that  for all  .
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thanks | Note that on the specified interval that  converges uniformly on  since those points are on the interior of its interval of convergence. Now note that  is differentiable to  and that by the Weirstrass test or using the ratio/root test that this is uniformly convergent on  we can conclude that
Now it is obvious that  , so there is part i and for part two repeat a similar process of establishing, uniform convergence of  on  , uniform convergence of  on  , and the differentiability of  on | | The following users thank Mathstud28 for this useful post: | |  | 
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| | I feel really stupid because your explanation is very clear but I don't follow....can you please explain why the derivative of  is  because I make it out to be  . The second thing is the ratio test on  gives convergence, does that necessarily imply uniform convergence.
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Originally Posted by davidmccormick I feel really stupid because your explanation is very clear but I don't follow....can you please explain why the derivative of  is  because I make it out to be  . The second thing is the ratio test on  gives convergence, does that necessarily imply uniform convergence.
Sorry about this and thanks a lot | Because  is a function of x so  now since the appropriate conditions were met as I showed you  . And to answer your other question, I mistyped, forgive me. Disregard the ratio/root test comment and stick the Weirstrass M-test. | 
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Originally Posted by Mathstud28 Because  is a function of x so  now since the appropriate conditions were met as I showed you  . And to answer your other question, I mistyped, forgive me. Disregard the ratio/root test comment and stick the Weirstrass M-test. | As you said, it is a function of x.
So davidmccormick, you are correct.
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| | But all I've done is differentiating the first term of the original series. I am pretty sure that the derivative exist and is equal to  . But I have not actually shown that  is differentiable.
Any thoughts.
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Originally Posted by davidmccormick I am pretty sure that the derivative exist and is equal to  . | The series  converges uniformly in any interval [a,∞), where a>1 (by the Weierstrass M-test). So you can integrate this series term by term (getting  ), and by the fundamental theorem of calculus the integrated series will have the required derivative, which is clearly negative.
The same argument, repeated, will show that the second derivative is  , which is clearly positive. | | The following users thank Opalg for this useful post: | |  | 
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Originally Posted by davidmccormick But all I've done is differentiating the first term of the original series. I am pretty sure that the derivative exist and is equal to  . But I have not actually shown that  is differentiable.
Any thoughts.
thanks | It is sufficient to show that the sequence of parital sums:
in a neighbourhood of  is uniformly convergent, and that  is also uniformly convergent to conclude that:
The uniform convergence on the sequence of partial sums for the zeta function can be demonstrated fairly easily on any closed interval ![[a,b],\ 1<a<b [a,b],\ 1<a<b](http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/latex2/img/a07de91ea498b01b96ada967b13f3681-1.gif) , and with a bit more trouble for the sequence of derivatives of the partial sums. Together these prove that the derivative of the zeta function can be found by term by term differentiation of the series for the zeta function on
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Originally Posted by Mathstud28 Note that on the specified interval that  converges uniformly on  since those points are on the interior of its interval of convergence. | This needs clarifying. If this is saying that the series is uniformly convergent on  then I suspect its wrong.
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| | For the Weierstrass M-test what series do we use to show that  and  respectively are uniformly convergent. | 
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Originally Posted by davidmccormick For the Weierstrass M-test what series do we use to show that  and  respectively are uniformly convergent. | These series are uniformly convergent on the interval [a,∞), for any given a>1. In fact,  is decreasing as a function of s, because its derivative is  . So its maximum value on the interval [a,∞) is its value at the left endpoint s=a, and we take  (where k = 1 or 2 as appropriate) in the M-test. The fact that  converges (for a>1) then tells you that these series converge uniformly on that interval.
But note that uniform convergence on the interval [a,∞) for every a>1 does not imply uniform convergence on the interval (1,∞); and in fact the Riemann zeta series is not uniformly convergent on (1,∞). | | The following users thank Opalg for this useful post: | |  | 
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