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October 25th, 2009, 04:32 AM
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| | Find the value of 2 terms in the simultaneous equation Question : For what values of  and  , the simultaneous equations
x + y + z = 6
x + 2y + 3z = 10
x + 2y +  z = | 
October 25th, 2009, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by zorro Question : For what values of  and  , the simultaneous equations
x + y + z = 6
x + 2y + 3z = 10
x + 2y +  z =  |
Note that the first two terms of the last two equations are identical. We can rewrite these equations as:
So we can conclude that  .
You can solve for lambda and mu by comparing coefficients of  on each side of this equation. | 
October 31st, 2009, 11:56 PM
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| | Please elaborate on ur solution Quote:
Originally Posted by Mush Note that the first two terms of the last two equations are identical. We can rewrite these equations as:
So we can conclude that  .
You can solve for lambda and mu by comparing coefficients of  on each side of this equation. |
Thanks for ur reply
But may i know what do u mean by  and  in the equation | 
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Originally Posted by harbottle |
But how did u get 
Could u please elaborate on that
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November 1st, 2009, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by zorro But how did u get  
Could u please elaborate on that | Forget the   business.
If  for all values of z then it should be quite plain that you need to equate the constant term on each side of the equation and you need to equate the coefficient of z on each side of the equation.
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Originally Posted by mr fantastic Forget the   business.
If  for all values of z then it should be quite plain that you need to equate the constant term on each side of the equation and you need to equate the coefficient of z on each side of the equation. |
what do u mean by equating the constant on each side of the equation?
Please could u show me the steps | 
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Originally Posted by zorro what do u mean by equating the constant on each side of the equation?
Please could u show me the steps | I will not.
Are you honestly saying that you do not know what the constant term is in  and  ? If that's the case then sorry but there's nothing educational to be gained by someone writing a solution for you to simply copy.
The cold hard fact (based on this thead and others) is that you need to go back and thoroughly revise basic material (such as polynomials) because the questions you are asking (and no doubt other questions you have yet to meet or ask) assume you are competent with that material.
Then read threads like this one again.
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Originally Posted by mr fantastic I will not.
Are you honestly saying that you do not know what the constant term is in  and  ? If that's the case then sorry but there's nothing educational to be gained by someone writing a solution for you to simply copy.
The cold hard fact (based on this thead and others) is that you need to go back and thoroughly revise basic material (such as polynomials) because the questions you are asking (and no doubt other questions you have yet to meet or ask) assume you are competent with that material.
Then read threads like this one again. |
You didnt understand my question . I need to know what to put in the values of mu and lambda | 
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Originally Posted by zorro You didnt understand my question . I need to know what to put in the values of mu and lambda | You have been told how to get the values of  and  . Review my replies and then show your work if you still need help.
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Originally Posted by mr fantastic Forget the   business.
If  for all values of z then it should be quite plain that you need to equate the constant term on each side of the equation and you need to equate the coefficient of z on each side of the equation. |
In this u have quoted to equate the coefficient of z on each side of the equation
and here the coefficient of z would be 3 and lambda ...is that correct
If correct then which equation should this coefficient should be equated | 
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Originally Posted by zorro In this u have quoted to equate the coefficient of z on each side of the equation
and here the coefficient of z would be 3 and lambda ...is that correct
If correct then which equation should this coefficient should be equated | On the left hand side the coefficient of z is -3. On the right hand side the coefficient of z is  . So  .
Your job is to use similar reasoning with the constant terms.
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Originally Posted by mr fantastic On the left hand side the coefficient of z is -3. On the right hand side the coefficient of z is  . So  .
Your job is to use similar reasoning with the constant terms. |
So the value of lambda = 3 and mu = 10
is that correct ,then what is the use of the other equations in the question ? | 
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Originally Posted by Raoh  yes,it is correct ,  . | These are the values for the system to have infinite solutions. But having reviewed the original post, I find that that the OP hasn't said what's meant to be happening with the system .... Quote:
Originally Posted by zorro Question : For what values of  and  , the simultaneous equations
x + y + z = 6
x + 2y + 3z = 10
x + 2y +  z =  | This question is incomplete. What is meant to happen with these equations? Do you want:
Infinite solutions? Unique solution? No solution?
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