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April 10th, 2008, 11:20 PM
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| | Problem 48 1) Let  prove that  is not an integer. | 
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Originally Posted by ThePerfectHacker 1) Let  prove that  is not an integer. | Let k ΞZ such that 2^k £ n < 2^k+1 Let m be the least common multiple of 1,2,3,…,n except 2^k. Then multiplying S = 1 – 1/2 + 1/3 -…..± 1/n by m we have: mS = m – m/2 + m/3 -……± m/n Each number on the right hand side is an integer except m/2^k and hence Sm is not an integer, which implies Sm is not an integer. | 
April 23rd, 2008, 04:14 PM
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| | By the alternating series theorem, the partial sum will always be less than one but greater than zero, and therefore not an integer. | 
April 25th, 2008, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePerfectHacker 1) Let  prove that  is not an integer. | The series you presented is the Alternating Harmonic Series, which is Conditionally Convergent, the series is represented by:
The series' terms look like such:
This series converges to
Since the series converges to  and since:
Then for  the series can never reach one since it is incrementing up or down by smaller amounts. Since you subtract  from 1 for n=2, and since the terms are decreasing and alternating in sign, then the series will never reach one again, therefore, this can't be an integer for  because all terms are decreasing,therefore the partial sums remain between 1 and 0. | | The following users thank Aryth for this useful post: | |  | 
April 25th, 2008, 02:36 PM
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| | how about considering:
1 +1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + .... ===>A
and
1/2 + 1/4 + 1/6 +.... =====>B
to get the required series:
A - 2B
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April 25th, 2008, 03:14 PM
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| | Yeah, that is a distinct possibility...
The Alternating Series does equal:
H(n) - H(2n)
Where H(n) is the n-th harmonic number | 
May 14th, 2008, 08:11 AM
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| | Huh. I stayed away from this one because I didn't pick up on the series alternating- I read  as saying each term could either be added or subtracted, without nessecarily alternating.
Is there a similar solution to this problem? | 
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| | You can't know what sign the last number of the series is going to be, that all depends on n, so the  means that it can be positive or negative depending on n. The initial pattern reveals an alternating series. | 
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| | [FONT='Cambria Math','serif'] My first thought was to try an inductive argument, but I had a lot of difficulty getting it going. I dont think what I came up with is sound, but nevertheless I decided to post what I came up with. Proof. It suffices to show that for all n≥2; 1-1/2+1/3-
±1/n ∈ (0,1). Let Pn denote the proposition that 1-1/2+1/3-
±1/(n-1) ∈ (0,1) and 1-1/2+1/3-
±1/(n-1)±1/n∈ (0,1). Then P3 is true since and Assume Pn is true and that n is even. Then 1-1/2+1/3-
+1/(n-1) ∈ (0,1) and 1-1/2+1/3-
+1/(n-1)-1/n ∈ (0,1). Because 1/(n+1) < 1/n, it follows from the inductive hypothesis that 1-1/2+1/3-
+1/(n-1)-1/n+1/(n+1) ∈ (0,1). The case where n is odd is similar. So by the principle of mathematical induction, for all n ≥ 3, Pn is true and hence for all n ≥ 2, 1-1/2 +1/3 -
±1/n ∈ (0,1) and hence not an integer. //
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July 7th, 2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Danshader how about considering:
1 +1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + .... ===>A
and
1/2 + 1/4 + 1/6 +.... =====>B
to get the required series:
A - 2B | These two series do not converge. | 
July 7th, 2008, 10:06 PM
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| | Ok, how about this. It is basically Aryth's post but a bit more explicit.
Let  which is just the partial sums.
Consider the (sub) sequence of partial sums:  for  is a subsequence of  which as noted above converges to ln(2) (derive using MacLauren expansion of ln at x=1). Then  .  is monotonically decreasing:
Note that  and so  for  and so cannot be an integer.
Likewise for the partial sums:  for
except that  monotonically increases from 1/2 to ln(2).
Put it together and we just showed the odd and even elements of the partial sums  are never integers after 1. | 
July 30th, 2008, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Danshader how about considering:
1 +1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + .... ===>A
and
1/2 + 1/4 + 1/6 +.... =====>B
to get the required series:
A - 2B | A - 2B = 0? Considering B = A/2... | 
September 8th, 2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lore A - 2B = 0? Considering B = A/2... | As meymathis said, these two series do not converge, in other words,  and  .
So you do algebric operations on infinite numbers, which may confuse your mind. | 
October 11th, 2008, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePerfectHacker 1) Let  prove that  is not an integer. | Suppose that  . Choose an integer  such that  .
Then
Consider the lowest common multiple of  . This number will be of the form  , where  is an odd integer. Now multiply both sides of the equation by this number, to get
Now, when multiplied out, all the terms on the left will be integers, except one:
is not an integer, since  is odd. So the left hand side is not an integer, and hence neither is the right hand side. That means that  is not an integer.
Not:
http://plus.maths.org/issue12/features/harmonic/index.html
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October 12th, 2008, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePerfectHacker 1) Let  prove that  is not an integer. | I'm confussed since
However  and my understanding is that  is never an integer for  . This one would seem to be more interesting to prove.
[edit] I think that's what Susan did. Never mind but perhaps we should make it explicit that's what's going on. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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