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Old November 1st, 2009, 07:21 AM
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Hi,

I'm having problem with this question:

If y = \cosh(x) for x > 0, find x in terms of y and hence show that \cosh^{-1}x = \ln (x + \sqrt{x^2-1}). State the domain and range of the function \cosh^{-1}x.

Currently I have x in terms of y as x = \frac{2}{e^y + e^{-y}} I am unsure if this is as far as it can go. This part: \cosh^{-1}x = \ln (x + \sqrt{x^2-1}) is where I am more confused.

Thankyou for any help. It is greatly appreciated
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Hello there,

I did this pretty quickly but I think this will hopefully help you,

Given
y=cosh(x) where x\geq0 [1]
then
y=(e^{x}-e^{-x})/2
so
e^{x}-e^{-x}=2y
then multiplying all by exp(x) gives
e^{x}=\frac{2y\pm\sqrt{4y^2-4}}{2} (quadratic formula)
thus
x = ln(y\pm\sqrt{y^2-1})
and since y = cosh(x) = cosh( ln( y .... ) ) then
cosh^{-1}(y) = ln(y\pm\sqrt{y^2 -1} )

Now, ln(a) is a real valued function where a must be positive and real, so y +/- sqrt(y^2 - 1) must be positive and real; thus y^2 - 1 >= 0 => y >= 1 (which is true since by [1] that x >= 0 and so cosh(x) >= 1), now for y +/- sqrt(y^2 - 1) to be positive then we must take y + sqrt(y^2 - 1)

So
cosh^{-1}(y) = ln(y+\sqrt{y^2 -1} )
which (for letting y be x) is what was wanted.

The domain for arccosh(y) would then be such that y + sqrt(y^2 - 1) >= ie y > 1 (since ln(0) is also undefined) and the range would then be all positive real numbers (from 0 to +infinity) which is the range of ln for domain greater than 1.






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Hello there,

I did this pretty quickly but I think this will hopefully help you,
Unfortunately I am not brilliant at maths, hence why I come here for help. I prefer chemistry
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Unfortunately I am not brilliant at maths, hence why I come here for help. I prefer chemistry
I'd love to pick up on chemistry at some point - you're very lucky
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Hello there,

then multiplying all by exp(x) gives
e^{x}=\frac{2y\pm\sqrt{4y^2-4}}{2} (quadratic formula)
thus
x = ln(y\pm\sqrt{y^2-1})
and since y = cosh(x) = cosh( ln( y .... ) ) then
cosh^{-1}(y) = ln(y\pm\sqrt{y^2 -1} )

Now, ln(a) is a real valued function where a must be positive and real, so y +/- sqrt(y^2 - 1) must be positive and real; thus y^2 - 1 >= 0 => y >= 1 (which is true since by [1] that x >= 0 and so cosh(x) >= 1), now for y +/- sqrt(y^2 - 1) to be positive then we must take y + sqrt(y^2 - 1)

So
cosh^{-1}(y) = ln(y\pm\sqrt{y^2 -1} )
which (for letting y be x) is what was wanted.

The domain for arccosh(y) would then be such that y + sqrt(y^2 - 1) >= ie y > 1 (since ln(0) is also undefined) and the range would then be all positive real numbers (from 0 to +infinity) which is the range of ln for domain greater than 1.
Sorry but I don't understand how the quadratic was formed when you multiply by exp(x) as you say
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My fault, I should have made this clearer,

Given that you can get down to this equation,
e^{x} -e^{-x} = 2y
Then multiplying all the terms (both on the left hand side and the right hand side) by e^{x} gives
e^{x}(e^{x} -e^{-x}) = e^{x}2y
Then, by expanding the bracket out, you get
e^{x}e^{x} -e^{-x}e^{x} = e^{x}2y
Now, by standard rules of indices, a^ba^c=a^{b+c} and a^0 = 1 we get e^{-x}e^{x} = e^{-x+x} = e^{0} = 1
Then e^{x}e^{x} -1 = e^{x}2y which can be written as
(e^{x})^2 -e^{x}2y -1 = 0 [1] by collecting the e^{x} terms and bringing the 2y term to the left hand side
Now, say you let W be e^{x}, just to show this is like a quadratic, you can rewrite [1] as W^2 -W2y -1 = 0 which is in the general formula for solving a quadratic equation, with roots at W=\frac{(2y)\pm\sqrt{(2y)^2-4(-1)}}{2}=\frac{2y\pm\sqrt{4y^2+4}}{2}=\frac{2y\pm\sqrt{4(y^2+1)}}{2}

=\frac{2y\pm2\sqrt{y^2+1}}{2} (since \sqrt{4} = 2)

=y\pm\sqrt{y^2+1} (by dividing by 2)

thus W=e^{x}=y\pm\sqrt{y^2+1}

and taking the log of both sides gives

x = log(y\pm\sqrt{y^2+1}) and the rest carries on above

*The formula for solving a quadratic equation in general is as follows in case you can't remember,
for ax^2 +bx +c = 0
then x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 -4ac}}{2a}
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My fault, I should have made this clearer,

Given that you can get down to this equation,
e^{x} -e^{-x} = 2y
Then multiplying all the terms (both on the left hand side and the right hand side) by e^{x} gives
e^{x}(e^{x} -e^{-x}) = e^{x}2y
Then, by expanding the bracket out, you get
e^{x}e^{x} -e^{-x}e^{x} = e^{x}2y
Now, by standard rules of indices, a^ba^c=a^{b+c} and a^0 = 1 we get e^{-x}e^{x} = e^{-x+x} = e^{0} = 1
Then e^{x}e^{x} -1 = e^{x}2y which can be written as
(e^{x})^2 -e^{x}2y -1 = 0 [1] by collecting the e^{x} terms and bringing the 2y term to the left hand side
Now, say you let W be e^{x}, just to show this is like a quadratic, you can rewrite [1] as W^2 -W2y -1 = 0 which is in the general formula for solving a quadratic equation, with roots at W=\frac{(2y)\pm\sqrt{(2y)^2-4(-1)}}{2}=\frac{2y\pm\sqrt{4y^2+4}}{2}=\frac{2y\pm\sqrt{4(y^2+1)}}{2}

=\frac{2y\pm2\sqrt{y^2+1}}{2} (since \sqrt{4} = 2)

=y\pm\sqrt{y^2+1} (by dividing by 2)

thus W=e^{x}=y\pm\sqrt{y^2+1}

and taking the log of both sides gives

x = log(y\pm\sqrt{y^2+1}) and the rest carries on above

*The formula for solving a quadratic equation in general is as follows in case you can't remember,
for ax^2 +bx +c = 0
then x = \frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2 -4ac}}{2a}

That made it a load clearer thanks again
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